But! In order for this meeting to take place, certain conditions must be met that will allow this meeting to be effective.

Let's take the demarcation line that Europeans insist on and say, let's freeze the conflict or cease fire along the frontline. At the moment, this frontline absolutely does not suit Russia, at least in Donbass. At least in Donbass.

So, for our interests to align in resolving this issue, Russia must reach the administrative borders of Donetsk region, at the very least. This is at least one precondition to sit down at the negotiating table and achieve some results during these negotiations.

As for other territories included in the constitutional field of the Russian Federation, part of the Herson and Zaporizhzhia regions, yes, Russia says it's our territory, Ukraine says it's our territory. But for some time, they can remain disputed territories.

And in order for Russia to resolve the issue of restoring these territories within the framework of its Constitution, it can be done in two ways - military and non-military. But when it comes to the territory of Donbass, we cannot start negotiations until there are administrative boundaries that would suit the Russian Federation.

In this sense, a political solution, which was demanded by either Trump from Zelensky or not, of course, Zelensky cannot accept. He cannot politically declare that we are leaving the territory of Donbass. He cannot do that.

And what can he do?

If he has the desire and some agreements with Trump or not with Trump, I don't know, well, it may happen that in a month or so, on the frontline, Russian troops will significantly advance in that direction and may reach the administrative borders, which will unfreeze the negotiating process if they are interested in it. Why am I talking about this? Yes, they will not publicly declare it, the responsibility will be on the military who could not hold this front.

Why am I talking about this? Because we only consider what is happening on the frontline and do not take into account what is happening today in the Ukrainian energy sector. These daily drone attacks, rockets, ballistics, they don't just fly somewhere, they hit specific targets. They hit the energy sector, right?

Ukraine is left without gas. It's already the heating season, by the way, starting 15 days later. They plan to start heating 15 days later. I'm not sure that... It's kind of cool now. Yes, yes, yes. And I want to tell you, Vladimir Vladimirovich, winter in Ukraine is really, yes, it starts around mid-December, it's already winter. You can say it's winter.

Before that, it was still somewhat warm there. But we are approaching that. Restoring those facilities, generating companies and machine department of those thermal power plants that were destroyed, not in the coming week, not in the coming month, not in the coming half-year.

According to some tests, it's not even possible. But there are secret batteries. Yes, there are, listen, there are secret batteries.